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	<title>Comments on: Craigslist TOU friend or foe</title>
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	<description>Web Development Observations and Asides by Corey Salzano</description>
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		<title>By: Corey</title>
		<link>http://www.tacticaltechnique.com/research/craigslist-tou-friend-or-foe/comment-page-1/#comment-2443</link>
		<dc:creator>Corey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter, thanks for your kind words. I had to take a few minutes to figure out what post you were even talking about, and I hope you don&#039;t mind that I moved your comment here from my About page. 
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I suppose my site was indexed somewhere for your name, and I understand why that is troublesome. I have removed your URL from the list in this post since it no longer fits. 
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Glad to hear that you are making progress with the site, and I wish you well. If your team uses Wordpress and need some coding assistance, let me know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter, thanks for your kind words. I had to take a few minutes to figure out what post you were even talking about, and I hope you don&#8217;t mind that I moved your comment here from my About page. </p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I suppose my site was indexed somewhere for your name, and I understand why that is troublesome. I have removed your URL from the list in this post since it no longer fits. </p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Glad to hear that you are making progress with the site, and I wish you well. If your team uses Wordpress and need some coding assistance, let me know.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.tacticaltechnique.com/research/craigslist-tou-friend-or-foe/comment-page-1/#comment-2438</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 07:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Corey,

Just came across your site; you&#039;re doing a good job with it.  I owe it to myself and my team to clarify the indiscretion with the TOU.  In an effort to get this site off the ground and running, we had originally hired an overseas programming effort that had promised us a great script that we&#039;d be able to quickly utilize.  Despite our best attempts to correctly guide, everything fell apart and we soon came to realize it was a dubious affair.  There were red flags left and right with them, and this is just an indication of one; without our knowledge they had copied everything verbatim.  This is just one of their less than honest practices that we became aware of.  After 3 months, we chalked it up as a sunk cost and left the site as is until we found another programmer.  Unfortunately we didn&#039;t get moving again till as of late when all these issues came to light.  My current programmer is the one that brought this to my attention and we&#039;ve hired a proper attorney now that has drafted our current TOU.  If I had known earlier myself I would have attempted to change this ages ago, believe me.  I see your blog post was made in May &#039;08, and as you can gather, the site has been sitting there as is until this past week.  I don&#039;t want to shift blame as I should have been more careful and cautious in overseeing these programmers, but there were a lot of other issues that needed my attention first to correct.  But you learn from your mistakes.  That said, I want to directly apologize on behalf of us at CM.  If you knew my new team you would be able to quickly see how all of are extremely passionate in what we do and the service we provide.  Thanks for you time and all the best.

regards,
Peter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Corey,</p>
<p>Just came across your site; you&#8217;re doing a good job with it.  I owe it to myself and my team to clarify the indiscretion with the TOU.  In an effort to get this site off the ground and running, we had originally hired an overseas programming effort that had promised us a great script that we&#8217;d be able to quickly utilize.  Despite our best attempts to correctly guide, everything fell apart and we soon came to realize it was a dubious affair.  There were red flags left and right with them, and this is just an indication of one; without our knowledge they had copied everything verbatim.  This is just one of their less than honest practices that we became aware of.  After 3 months, we chalked it up as a sunk cost and left the site as is until we found another programmer.  Unfortunately we didn&#8217;t get moving again till as of late when all these issues came to light.  My current programmer is the one that brought this to my attention and we&#8217;ve hired a proper attorney now that has drafted our current TOU.  If I had known earlier myself I would have attempted to change this ages ago, believe me.  I see your blog post was made in May &#8216;08, and as you can gather, the site has been sitting there as is until this past week.  I don&#8217;t want to shift blame as I should have been more careful and cautious in overseeing these programmers, but there were a lot of other issues that needed my attention first to correct.  But you learn from your mistakes.  That said, I want to directly apologize on behalf of us at CM.  If you knew my new team you would be able to quickly see how all of are extremely passionate in what we do and the service we provide.  Thanks for you time and all the best.</p>
<p>regards,<br />
Peter</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Grayson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Grayson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 07:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Craigslist is basically useless at this point.
The spammers post ads automatically and then their bots flag all others ads to death.
I proved it today, for example, by copying ads that miraculously survived. These verbatim copies were flagged within minutes. Yet the identical originals were still there. None were offensive or spam or wrongly posted.

The point is that the only ads that can remain are those from the spammers, which, sadly, spells the demise of Craigslist as a useful tool for the individual (these ads were all in the personals sections).

RIP Craigslist! You rocked! Now you&#039;re gone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craigslist is basically useless at this point.<br />
The spammers post ads automatically and then their bots flag all others ads to death.<br />
I proved it today, for example, by copying ads that miraculously survived. These verbatim copies were flagged within minutes. Yet the identical originals were still there. None were offensive or spam or wrongly posted.</p>
<p>The point is that the only ads that can remain are those from the spammers, which, sadly, spells the demise of Craigslist as a useful tool for the individual (these ads were all in the personals sections).</p>
<p>RIP Craigslist! You rocked! Now you&#8217;re gone.</p>
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		<title>By: Corey</title>
		<link>http://www.tacticaltechnique.com/research/craigslist-tou-friend-or-foe/comment-page-1/#comment-376</link>
		<dc:creator>Corey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 03:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, thanks for your feedback. I am also not a dealer, but a web developer. Part of my job is to keep dealers that want my help out of the spam category. While I can not agree that all dealers = spam, I do believe that dealership mass posting is a problem. Have you ever tried viewing only by owner listings instead of all? If you find dealer ads in the by owner board, flag away, but search filters are available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, thanks for your feedback. I am also not a dealer, but a web developer. Part of my job is to keep dealers that want my help out of the spam category. While I can not agree that all dealers = spam, I do believe that dealership mass posting is a problem. Have you ever tried viewing only by owner listings instead of all? If you find dealer ads in the by owner board, flag away, but search filters are available.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Walton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Walton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 22:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live to flag dealers (ie. spammers) on craigslist. It&#039;s my hobby.

(no, I&#039;m not a dealer. Just a private user of CL. I love CL, and I&#039;m willing to work to keep it a free, person to person service.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live to flag dealers (ie. spammers) on craigslist. It&#8217;s my hobby.</p>
<p>(no, I&#8217;m not a dealer. Just a private user of CL. I love CL, and I&#8217;m willing to work to keep it a free, person to person service.)</p>
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